The Alienation Debate

A Father Wrote:

you will never convince those of us that have suffered and have seen our children suffer under Pa, that Pas dose not exist, it is real when you are the targeted. although i don't agree with all that Gardner says, it is delusional to think it does not exist, may i respectfully suggest that it is the rejection of the concept of pas that initself does more damage to ncp's, yes parents not just mums or dads. if parents have lost their children through pas either as the targetd one or as the perpetrator then they need to recognise and understand what has happened before they will get any where and before the children will benefit and after all that is what we as parents are chartered to do as best as we can. members of both genders have been guilty, not just mums. to deny pas exists is to bury one's head in the sand.  

Anonymums Response:

• PAS against mothers and mothers only. Richard Gardner classed substantiated cases of child sexual abuse as "Alienation" He wanted to decriminalize pedophilia and wrote this in his books. Like Dean Tong, and many others who have been convicted for abusing their mothers and children use this as an excuse for their behavior. 
• Alienation originated from the studies conducted on the disclosures of convicted pedophiles. Maternal Alienation was part of a series of behaviors that was used to silence the child in the early grooming stages. The maternal bond is the strongest bond that the offender seeks to break. Once that this is broken, the child is truly isolated and groomed for the next stage. 
• Similar patterns have emerged in the studies of intimate partner terrorism that effects one in three women. Men guilty of these actions were cross classes and professions, some lingered in psychology like the infamous Richard Gardner whom knew that if he could twist such a thing around and gather the support of divorced fathers - Many would flock to his uprising.  
• On a global level mothers are the ones that are truly alienated in the media, the law, schools and culture in general. We are seen as a great burden to society despite our tireless efforts. 
• Fathers Rights tend to try and equalize something that cannot be truly equal unless it were scientifically possible for fathers to bear the birth of children. Instead it is something tyrannical and quite sinister to consider women as merely "baby factories" with no added rights to balance the unbalanced scales. In the encyclopedia for men and masculinities it states that some men experience a maternal jealousy of the maternal bond and whilst some rise above such things, others manifest in dysfunctional manners. The bond between a mother and a child is always stronger than of the father as the baby hears the mothers voice and is soothed subconsciously by her later on.  
• Paternal alienation perceives any expression of closeness such as breast-feeding, concerns for the child's well being and loving interactions as something sinister and vindictive. Thus the maternal jealously rages on in a court room run mostly by men.  
• The evidence of domestic violence does not get through because Australia has the second highest globally male dominated police force.  
• It is in fact impossible to say that men have a disadvantage in the courts because 70% of the legislation is male dominated. Most of the media is run by men and the few women who speak of women's issues are coined as "feminazis"